LatinaLista — A breakdown of voters by CNN shows that Clinton has women voters and rural America to thank for her win.
Sen. Hillary Clinton
(Source: cnn.com)
It’s a pattern that has upheld throughout most of this election. What it means for Obama is that while urban America, a.k.a. young voters and first-time voters, comprise a large part of his foundation, it just may be rural voters and women who give Clinton the nomination unless Obama can deliver more than inspirational speech.
And while it’s great news that Obama voters have dived into the political process, reports are already surfacing that if voters’ candidate of choice doesn’t win, they would rather not vote at all — the number appears to be rising with each new poll.
Once the Democratic nominee is decided the biggest fight for voters won’t just be between parties.
Clinton’s win in PA underscores strength of women voters and rural America
Comment(23)
laura
We should be asking both candidates continuously what they intend to do for the issues we care about.
Clinton voted for the Iraq war. Now she talks about bombing Iran. Is that good for us?
Since President Clinton signed an immigration “reform” law in 1996 – really a law to punish undocumented people and to deport documented people who were convicted of anything, including marijuana posession – imprisonment of undocumented immigrants for immigration violations has soared. The main beneficiary is a private company that runs prisons. What is Senator Hillary Clinton’s position on her husband’s law?
What is Senator Obama’s position?
I have no patience with Latina/os who vote for somebody because they’ve heard of them. Or because their pastor says to vote for them because they are against gay marriage.
I also have no patience for women who vote for Clinton because she is a woman. How is a woman who likes war good for me? How is a woman who cares only for power, not for me or anyone I care about, good for me?
That is how we got 8 years of Bush. That is how we are getting family homes raided at night now. That is how 30,000 immigrants are imprisoned at any moment in time – not for hurting anyone, but for being here without the right visa. This is the result of Clinton/Bush policies, which we allowed to happen with our votes.
Personally, I am skeptical of Obama and want to ask him what he will do to end the war in Iraq and the war against immigrants here at home. Clinton I am not skeptical – I am certain she will sell out anyone and anything if it gives her more power. Just like she is willing to appeal to racism to get votes against Obama.
I have no doubt that a ClintonII presidency would continue us on the disastrous track we are on.
Frank
War against immigrants? Don’t you mean illegal aliens? There is no war just enforcement of our immigration laws. Laws of any kind are supposed to be enforced. That is why we have them.
I don’t know of any candidate who is appealing to racism to get votes. Care to explain?
Daniel
looks like hc finally found a constituency, women who would prefer to vote for a white loser than a black winner.
you can pretty much count on things being this way ’til the convention.
too bad, i almost believed in this white racist nation.
nimodo.
Frank
So we are a “white racist nation”? Don’t let the door hit you in the behind when you leave. You are racist for making such a statement.
Daniel
gringito: “Don’t let the door hit you in the behind when you leave.”
ill be sure and remember that.
ill just be going to seemy granddaughter up north and then heading down to Cuernavaca for a few weeks.
here’s something for you to remember before you leave:
U.S. Census projections
I have even better numbers from the U.S. Census but it’ll have to wait.
BTW. I’ll be back. You wont.
LoL
Frank
So why are you salivating at the potential of the U.S. becoming a minority White nation? What would you say if I were salivating over Mexico becoming a majority White-Anglo nation due to illegal immigration? Sounds pretty racist to me.
Hispanics are the majority in 22 countries on the Western Hemisphere, Whites can’t be in one or two? Just how greedy are you? So genocide makes you lick your lips with anticipation?
Frank
Wasn’t it Hitler that was a fan of genocide? Are you an admirer of his?
adriana
Frank, where did Daniel mention genocide?
Latinos are having more kids than white families are, and most violent crime is white on white or black on black or brown on brown.
Daniel
Adriana: “where did Daniel mention genocide?
Latinos are having more kids than white families…”
Frank is a plant intended to “rope-A-dope” the opposition.
No person can be as ignorant and uneducated (no offense intended) as he and Horace.
A word to the wise: You can burn books, but you cannot burn what is written on the internet.
But ya, more births than deaths translates to population growth for the more births folks and negative growth (an oxymoron) for the less birth folks.
🙂
Frank
He may not have mentioned the word genocide but that is what the results would be and what he is advocating.
If Latinos are having more kids it is partly due to the illegal kind coming here and producing anchor babies. Should we be happy about that to?
Whites are breeding at replacement levels and that is where our population growth levels should be or even less than replacement level since we are experiencing twice as many births in this country than deaths. We already have 300 million people in this country. Most environmentalists say that 200 million would have been our ideal.
Daniel
Fravk: He may not have mentioned the word genocide but that is what the results would be and what he is advocating.
Genocide
You dont make babies. Not my fault. I am not advocating this. I merely point it out.
Frank: If Latinos are having more kids it is partly due to the illegal kind coming here and producing anchor babies. Should we be happy about that to?
“Anchor Babies?”
Is that how you address American citizens? These Americans have the exact same legal status as you. And you do not have the right to classify American citizens nor do you have to right to determine social or economic class or even what constitutes an American citizen.
In any event, this is not a factor in “Latino” birth rates.
Frank: Whites are breeding at replacement levels and that is where our population growth levels should be
Wrong. Whites are (to use a term from Stormfront.org) “breeding out.”
Your “should” remark is a normative statement.
Frank: or even less than replacement level
You cant have it both ways. However, this is true.
Frank: We already have 300 million people in this country. Most environmentalists say that 200 million would have been our ideal.
So you wont make a baby because an environmentalist tells you not to?
LoL apoco?
This country has less that 8% of the world’s population.
This country has 28% of the world’s proven resources.
The federal government owns 95% of the land.
There is plenty of room to grow in spite of what your environmentalists have to say.
On that note, however, using environmentalism to control population went out in the 80’s when John Tanton was exposed as a eugenics practicing racist.
If you dont start making babies, your just saving everything for us!
jajajajajaja!!!
BUEY!
Frank
Daniel, no most whites only have the amount of children THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES. While Latinos are just cranking them out, confident that the gringo will provide. What are they going to do when there is no more gringo to provide for them? I guess it’ll be like Latin America now. The poor will continue to have children they cannot afford to have and live in squalor. They will look to the heaven’s and cry for the white man to save them, but the white man will not come to save them.
Oh, and it isn’t true that talk of population control went out in the 80s. I was taught that population control was important to insure adequate natural resources and food supply and open land space. While also taking into account the social needs of a huge population growth. If anything, I think that the agenda was to get whites to stop producing because the globalist powers that be know that non-whites are easier to manipulate and control.
The anchor baby term is used to denote how illegal alien parents anchor themselves unto our country. I didn’t say there weren’t citizes but the 14th Amendment need re-interpreting. It is ridiculous to grant instant citizenship to a child from illegal alien parents. Most countries require that at least one parent be a citizen. It is nothing but a scam!
Daniel
What a joke. Look at this bunch of crock. This is typical ignorant white trash speak used when facts fail them.
most whites only have the amount of children THEY CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR THEMSELVES. While Latinos are just cranking them out, confident that the gringo will provide. What are they going to do when there is no more gringo to provide for them? I guess it’ll be like Latin America now. The poor will continue to have children they cannot afford to have and live in squalor. They will look to the heaven’s and cry for the white man to save them, but the white man will not come to save them.
I’m surprised this is even allowed in this forum.
This is so stupid. I wont bother to point out the poor whites in “America.” Trust me, I have the stats. It’s the whites who have lived off the backs of Black people and other minorities.
Now that this is becoming harder for whitey to do they cry like little boys.
Frank
Daniel, you are the joke it you think the majority of Whites in this country live off the backs of minorities. You have it reversed, buddy.
It was mostly Whites who built this country from the ground up and continue to do so.
Daniel
then you wont mind building a new stadium for L.A. so we can have a football team before you self-deport and breed out.
adriana
“It was mostly Whites who built this country from the ground up and continue to do so.”
If that were the case, then why did the whites need to bring Africans here to do the dirty work? And why did the whites need to bring Chinese, Mexicans, and other immigrants to build railroads, damns, bridges, big buildings, etc.?
Currently, American universities award a large percentage of Ph.D.s in the sciences (computer science, engineering, etc.) to foreign nationals because American born whites don’t know much about science books. If you walk through a major university’s engineering department, you will find lots of students from Asia and India.
Frank, I don’t know where or when you studied American history, but you seem to be lacking in your knowledge.
Daniel
Adriana: “Currently, American universities award a large percentage of Ph.D.s in the sciences (computer science, engineering, etc.) to foreign nationals because American born whites don’t know much about science books. If you walk through a major university’s engineering department, you will find lots of students from Asia and India.”
OUCH!
dolio hastaca jajaja
This is the internet equivalent of a mortal wound LoL
Frank
Only an extremely small percentage of whites owned slaves in the South–maybe 1 or 2%. So, that means that 98% of whites at that time never owned a slave.
Also, the SPANIARDS were the first to import slaves into the New World. Yes, Latin America also has slavery in their past.
The Chinese were also a miniscule part of the population in the 1800’s. The Irish built the railroads just as much as the Chinese. Up until 1965, whites comprised 85 – 90% of the population of the U.S. They worked the deep mines, steel mills, built the dams, roads, and bridges, farmed the land. Who do you think went underground to build the tunnels under the water, to drive the piles in for the bridges??? Are you all seriously suggesting that a small percentage of minorities built this country and 90% of the population sat around filing their nails? LOLOLOLOL! Too funny! Nice try, guys, but no cigar. No, White America fought for independence against Britain, created the Constitution and the government, and built this country IN THE MAIN with help from a small percentage of non-whites.
Yes, a small minority of non-whites helped to build this country. But they were the MINORITY, not the MAJORITY of the population. THIS IS HISTORICAL FACT. You need to stop with the condescending insults that whites had non-whites doing their “dirty work.” The Irish, Eastern Europeans, Italians especially would be surprised to learn that their ancestors didn’t do the dirty work. Yeah, you all need to learn history–and not REVISIONIST history!
Daniel
nothing compares to what the blacks were forced to endure, but racially speaking, the Irish were treated like dirt.
without your slavery and economic slavery of the Chinese, Irish and other racial minorities there never would have a U.S.
adriana
Frank,
I never said that the Spanish were not involved in the slave trade. I know that.
And of course, I realize that many Irish, Italians, Germans, etc. helped build the United States.
I still think that many Latinos, blacks, and Asians have been instrumental in building important structures too. “Minorities” have been undercounted traditionally because whites have liked to claim credit for their work. I never assigned numbers to my claims like you are trying to do.
You probably don’t even know that Alexander Hamilton may have been a mulatto or that the California missions and historical buildings were built by Native Americans.
And as it stands today, many whites don’t care to carry on the tradition of building structures, bridges or even studying the science that fosters new growth and development.
I challenge you to walk into a major research University’s science labs and take a look at the faces wearing lab coats and goggles.
Frank
Did you miss the part where the Spanish were the first to introduce slavery to the New World?????
And did you also miss the part where Whites were the vast majority of population until recently??? Chinese, Blacks, and Latinos were a miniscule percentage of the population. By 1965 we were a first world nation and all our infrastructure built. So, how exactly did they make the U.S. what it is??
Take your anti-White racism and your anti-U.S. and stick it where the sun don’t shine. And it is precisely because of Chicano nationalists like yourself that I am not inclined to want anymore anti-American Latinos in here. Why would we want more America haters in our country?????
adriana
Frank,
I am not a Chicano nationalist. I don’t know where you get the idea that I am. I am actually very critical of a lot of the “Latino leadership.”
I don’t understand why you troll the Latina blogs with your hate. You don’t even bring any good arguments to the table other than you don’t like the changing demographics in this country, which are fueled by the economics of the past 40 or so years (during most of which, we have had white male Republicans occupying the White House).
Whether or not the Spanish were the first to bring slaves into the New World doesn’t matter. I acknowledge that the Spanish were very much part of this cruel history. You can see for yourself here:
http://latinopoliticsblog.com/?p=138
I’m probably more American than you are in the sense that I have great-great Grandparents who were born here, have grandfathers who fought in WWII, numerous cousins who have been in Vietnam and the Gulf War, and even have relatives who have served in federal law enforcement. So don’t get into this stupid discussion about me being anti-American.
Frank
What hate? I am opposed to illegal immigration. What has that to do with hate?
I have given many more very good reasons why I am opposed to illegal immigration besides the changing demographics. You have been posting in here long enough to have read them all.
Immigrants do help fuel the economy in legal and controlled numbers not uncontrolled illegal immigration. What does having White male presidents have to do with anything?
No matter if you have had ancestors here longer than myself that isn’t the criteria for who is the most American. It is what is in your heart for this country and who your loyalties lie with. Respect for our laws and soveriegnty as a nation is another criteria to determine who is an American at heart and
who isn’t.
FYI, having relatives in the military or in law enforcement doesn’t qualify YOU personally as a loyal American. It might qualify them however depending on what is in their hearts. FYI, I served in the Viet Nam war myself.
No real American would call another American a racist or a hater just because they want our immigration laws enforced. What kind of screwed up thinking is that?
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